"VonBelmont" (jvonbelmont)
12/19/2014 at 19:23 • Filed to: Get the pump and put on More Than a Feelin' dear
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"VonBelmont" (jvonbelmont)
12/19/2014 at 19:23 • Filed to: Get the pump and put on More Than a Feelin' dear | 2
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I'm not a muscle car guy. I'm far too over privileged, liberal, and unpatriotic to be the traditional target demo for the muscle car. Nor am I an exec of a large firm who still thinks he can stick it to The Man. But I do know bullshit when I see it.
Muscle cars were meant to have a big engine with plenty of get-up-and-go, but the fun was working on them to make them faster. A 700HP Challenger should be the properly ridiculous-looking dreamchild of some blue-collar All-American teen with too much mechanical know how and too little common sense. Not some Viagra-and-testosterone Q ship. Bone stock, it loses all the coolness it would have had if it were modded.
/end rant
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Jayhawk Jake
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:26 |
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"New things aren't like old things so I hate them"
davedave1111
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:27 |
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I hoped you warmed up before you wrote that. You wouldn't want to hurt yourself streeetching that far to find something not to like about the Hellcat.
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VonBelmont
> Jayhawk Jake
12/19/2014 at 19:28 |
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To be fair, I enjoy my iPhone 6 a helluva lot more than my 5S ;)
Viggen
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:29 |
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The game has changed. That's all there is to it.
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VonBelmont
> davedave1111
12/19/2014 at 19:29 |
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Don't worry, the doc says if I take these pills, I can stay grumpy for up to three hours!
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VonBelmont
> Viggen
12/19/2014 at 19:30 |
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Yeah, but it's not as fun.
CRider
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:32 |
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Nope, muscle cars have always had lots of power (well... most of the time) and always will (I hope). And no matter how much power they make stock, people will still be trying to make them faster. 9 second streetable Hellcats aren't far off, and that's full cage drag car territory.
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Jayhawk Jake
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:32 |
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Interesting. I'd think someone that prefers to tweak his stuff to get the most out of it would be an android guy
Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:33 |
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You assume that these can't be modified when they likely can. Plus 700hp now is what >400hp must've been like in the mid to late 60s.
offroadkarter
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:34 |
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You honestly believe people won't work on these and make them even faster?
norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:35 |
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At least this wasn't some BS argument like the last guy that challenged the HellKitty.
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VonBelmont
> Jayhawk Jake
12/19/2014 at 19:37 |
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Well, it wasn't necessarily my choice (sort of an early present b/c my 5 had an unfortunate rendez-vous with a concrete floor). I do a little app coding as a hobby.
E. Julius
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:37 |
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Couldn't someone still buy a much cheaper Challenger and mod the shit out of it?
PatBateman
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:38 |
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If I told you that you can still make it MOAR POWER, would you like them?
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VonBelmont
> offroadkarter
12/19/2014 at 19:38 |
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Who needs speed when you can travel through time?
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VonBelmont
> E. Julius
12/19/2014 at 19:42 |
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That's what the Hellcat should've been: A blend of some psycho's mechanical skills and glorious disregard of everything else that shocks the hell outta everyone because they don't expect it to be THAT fast.
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E. Julius
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:43 |
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Also, since when are privileged liberal people not allowed to like muscle cars? One of the things I've always enjoyed about this hobby is that, barring some obnoxious individuals, people can agree across class lines that certain things are just cool.
Forgetful
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:44 |
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but the fun was working on them to make them faster
I thought what made muscle cars awesome was that you could buy a turn-key monster right off the showroom floor, with a warranty.
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E. Julius
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:44 |
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How is that not what it is now?
crowmolly
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:45 |
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There is no question that some of these will be modified heavily. At the most basic level all you need to do is engineer out some durability and reliability for power. Especially on a supercharged engine. Pulley swap and tune are probably the first Day 2 mods that are done.
And as a muscle car guy I'm not sure if I should be insulted at the stereotyping or not.
NJAnon
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:49 |
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VonBelmont has figured it out everyone! Close down oppositelock please!
*Not sure if this guy is serious*
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VonBelmont
> E. Julius
12/19/2014 at 19:50 |
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I dunno why, but to me muscle-cars have always been associated with Joe American and wrapped up in ideologies. Around here, the only people who buy these are either businessmen trying to be hip or Ed Hardy j-bro wannabe Southerners (usually the children of said businessmen), which I guess spoiled my perception of these cars.
Sir_Stig: and toxic masculinity ruins the party again.
> Jayhawk Jake
12/19/2014 at 19:50 |
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BOOM
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VonBelmont
> NJAnon
12/19/2014 at 19:52 |
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Shhh! Don't rat me out man!
To be fair, almost all of my posts have some manner of sarcasm/satire in them.
Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:55 |
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While I am also a liberal, and all those other things that you listed, I disagree.
Back in the day, you could actually work on your own car. These days, that is quite a bit harder. (Un)Fortunately, a whole industry has sprung up to put obscene power in your car and all you need is a VISA.
People with more dollars than brains build 220mph Camaros. CAMAROS! Have you seen the aero on those things? It takes no talent to make unnecessary HP anymore. Just dollars.
What Hellcat has done is saved you the trouble of searching for a tuner and offered you a warranty.
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Drakkon- Most Glorious and Upright Person of Genius
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:56 |
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I enjoy my S5 better than your iphone
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E. Julius
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 19:56 |
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Who cares about what they are associated with? Cars should be evaluated in terms of how their attributes relate to what an individual values in a car. If someone likes power, burnouts, whatever else the hellcat does, it shouldn't matter. Although I guess if someone likes prejudicial snap judgments of others and defining themselves through consumption then I suppose a car's associations would come into play.
The Transporter
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 20:03 |
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It allows the "bought not built" crowd to have some street cred at muscle car meets.
briannutter1
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 20:19 |
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If this is your idea of a QShip...what's your idea of stylish? :) The thing about it is I'm 42...actually I'm 13 in a 42 year old body. I've driven the originals and I'm SO THANKFUL the Horsepower gods have smiled upon us and given us at least one more round of excess. I'm believe these forms will come in and out of style...much like haircuts or clothing.
The Compromiser
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 20:31 |
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But that fourth hour...... look out!!
Schwing!
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VonBelmont
> E. Julius
12/19/2014 at 21:16 |
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I'm just one of those people that just draws associations between A and B. And I guess, deep down, American muscle just doesn't speak to me* as much as it does others.
*Would totally rock a Gen 1 Mustang for all it's worth, though.
Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 21:21 |
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Don't like the Hellcat?
EL_ULY
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 21:21 |
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The "psshh 700? get ma tools, I can squeeze 300 more outta this" mentality is plenty alive. Also, the "Hellcat is fast, but I bet my *insert 20 something year old's car* can beat that thing" spirit exists as well.
Trust me, there are pleeeenty of cars out in the street that can smoke a Hellcat. The more vanity it gains, the bigger the bullseye on its trunk gets.
Luc - The Acadian Oppo
> VonBelmont
12/19/2014 at 23:49 |
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I understand and agree on what you are trying to say. What's the fun of having that if you pull up to the drag strip only to be next to another one. You don't "that" feeling of having a 450hp car turned up to 700hp so you beat just about everything that lines up next to you.
To me the only thing that appeals about the Hellcat is the fact that you get a full factory warranty.
Really I prefer the 38K 485hp Scat pack Challenger. Nobody in their right mind needs 700hp. 485hp is PLENTY and I get to stick the 20+ thousand dollar difference in my pocket.
Satoshi "Zipang" Katsura
> Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire
12/20/2014 at 04:17 |
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I don't like the Hellcat.
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